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A Loud Slap in the Face (1)
of a TV Showman

15 October 2008
 

arcadianchen:

I'm still resentful
For being called barbarians.
I carved my hatred
On the handle of my knifes.
In the past, my ancestors
Took over vast territories
From others by force;
In the present, our eight Manchurian tribes
Are all ready
To fight for our lofty positions.
We'll never give up our dreams
To rule the land under the blue skies.

-- by TV showman, Manchu dynasty promoter Yan

百年耻辱刻悬刀,
称我蛮胡恨不消。
扩地开疆因圣祖,
荣华建国赖清朝。
八旗铁骥还激烈,
满族雄心未动摇。
经济复兴需努力!
龙旌指日满天飘。
——阎x
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毛二力:

This dxxxx scoundrel's behave of glorifying violence, aggression and genocide can only be matched by Japanese right wing group who denies Nanjing massacre.

If we can swallow Yan's praise of Manchu killing [of Hans and other ethnic people] under the pretext of national unity, why can't we as well swallow Japanese denial of Nanjing massacre [under the excuse of world harmony]?

Freedom of speech always has its certain limits. I would like to know if Yan has guts to acclaim Nazi carnage of Jews in Germany or Israel, telling them this was the necessary step for social development and progress.

这个快要x的老阎王歪曲历史史实,美化满清种族灭绝行为的言论和日本右翼美化侵略否定南京大屠杀异曲同工,这一巴掌,反而帮这个老贼扬名立万了!

如果我们能够以民族团结的理由容忍这个老贼胡说八道,为什么就不能容忍日本右翼美化侵略否定南京大屠杀?

言论自由也应该有底线,请问你在德国或者以色列敢公开宣传纳粹大屠杀是为了促进社会进步吗

大汉传统:

I would like to reveal a couple of things about Yan.

Yan's great-grandfather belonged to the so-called Ornamented White Flag tribe (a low rank tribe in strictly hierarchical Manchu community). After Manchu dynasty Qing was overthrown, his father changed his ethnic identity to Han and later worked for Japanese army during the WWII and assisted their operation of occupying land of China and killing Chinese people.

There is one thing that Yan hates to be known by others:

When he studied in the United States, he applied research fund for his project called "Golden Ages of Emperors Kangxi and Qianlong." However, his applications were rejected by all six institutions in America and Europe that he approached, and he was told by one of the Sinologist that the eras under Kangxi and Qianlong were not China's golden ages, but the darkest periods in its history.

关于我说阎xxxx, 年轻时丢人丢到国外的证据.

近年来近乎疯子一样无限鼓吹粉饰神化满清历史的阎xx其祖父为熙洽 (1945年被苏军俘虏) 的部下, 其父 (曾经参与抓捕高永久未遂) 是蓬莱日伪军的汉奸维持会长, 45年日本投降后举家四处躲避, 1949年解放后随那个命大而幸运的祖父进北京.

阎xx的祖上是满清汉军镶白旗, 他的父亲在满清灭亡后因为害怕被清算就在民国时改回汉族, 现在他对满人以及满清也有无法言喻的感情, 总是"梦回大清" .

阎xx不愿提的事:

阎xx曾向欧美六所大学兜售"康乾盛世"并申请研究经费时居然全部被拒, 而且还遭到一位美国汉学家的讥讽: "这不是中国的黄金时期,而是最黑暗的时期!"

丝绸之鹿:

Now Yan denies what he has said and the mainstream media in China seems to stand by him. When it comes to the words published on Jinbao, Big River net and suho.com, they all become selectively blind.

现在他否认自己说过的话,媒体似乎全站在他那边。对晶报,大河网、搜狐的报道只字不提。都在选择性失明

爱地乃司:

18 October 2005, when asked about literary persecution carried out by Manchu regime Yongzheng, Yan replied: "It was necessary to help stabilising the newly established Manchu reign, so it has positive effects."

5 November 2006, Yan was questioned if it is a war crime when Manchurians raided the Ming villages and kidnapped 970,000 people and cattle, he answered, "To Manchurians, it was great; but to the Han civilians, they lost their loved ones and life stocks, it was sad. Now looking back in the context of the social progress, we can hardly say it's really good or bad."

So we've learned a few things from this television showman:

We can hardly say it's a happy occasion or sad incident when Nazi Germany invaded Poland as it was necessary for Hitler's effort to control the whole Europe.

We can, again, hardly consider it's a happy occasion or sad incident when Japanese troops raped and massacred Chinese in Nanjing, as it was necessary for Japanese soldiers to release their emotional and physical stress during their mission of conquering Asia.

2005年10月18日,阎xx与《兰州晚报》记者“零距离接触”,记者:“雍正大兴‘文字狱’是不是影响了社会的发展?”阎答:“雍正的这一做法对于清王朝国家的统一、减弱诋毁政权还是起到了积极的作用。”(《满学专家破解清史“疑案”》2005年10月20日兰州晚报)

阎xx:皇太极5次带兵杀入关内,有一次掳掠“人牲97万头”,对于当时新兴的清政权来说当然是喜剧:扩大了影响,为入关增加了经济基础;对中原百姓来说肯定是悲剧:妻离子散,家破人亡。历史是在多维中发展的,很难说悲,也很难说喜。(《阎xx:我赞成修改历史教科书》2006年11月05日晶报

1939年德国突然向波兰发起“闪电式进攻”取得胜利,对于当时新兴的纳粹政权来说当然是喜剧:检验了“闪电战”的威力,为今后的侵略打下了基础;对欧洲乃至世界人民来说肯定是悲剧:妻离子散,家破人亡。历史是在多维中发展的,很难说悲,也很难说喜 --

再比如:日军攻占南京,因为占领的是首都,沉重地打击了敌国的民心士气,而大肆奸淫烧杀,解决了大日本皇军的性欲问题,对于连日苦战的日军来说当然是喜事;对中国人民来说肯定是悲剧:妻离子散,家破人亡。历史是在多维中发展的,很难说悲,也很难说喜 --

历史难道能够这样解读吗?

猜火车2007:

I have an advice for some historian-turned-showmen and showwomen on TV program Baijianjiangtan: Please learn to give some basic respect to history. If you play around facts for achieving high rating, you'd better be well prepared to receive more slaps in face.

奉劝那些因《百家xx》成为大家的史学普及者们:历史就是历史,不要因金钱而演义,不要因收视率而篡改,否则会有更多的大嘴巴子伺候着

穿汉服的墨者:

Yan is just a clown on the stage, the real culprits are behind the curtains.

I would like to ask why they rescheduled the TV talk show and broadcast Yan's episode [that acclaimed Manchu genocide of the Han and other Chinese] during the Beijing Olympics?

阎xx不过是被放在幕前的一个小丑而已,真正的都在幕后.

为什么原本只是匆匆戴带过的袁崇焕突然要讲成一个系列呢?为什么明亡清兴系列录了两个月就播了,而其他人却一直押后着?为什么康熙要在奥运其间讲?为什么一直讲伪清史,而毛教授的明十七帝播了几集然后就无限期雪藏了呢?以上还都只是百家xx一个地方

leeberty

The current view on history has shaken the very foundation of Chinese nation. If we don't rectify this trend, when one day China is again invaded by some external forces, I would wonder how many people will stand up and join the resistance movement, as in future they might well be viewed as criminals who hinder the progress of world integration.

现在的历史观已经动摇了国本!!强烈呼吁纠正错误的历史观!!!否则如果日军再次入侵,谁去做抵抗?谁会愿意背负违反“民族融合的罪人”

深水鳄鱼

Examining history we found when the Han was strong China was strong, when the Han was weak China was weak and in civil wars . We're now at a crossroad: do we want a strong China or a weak China in which the overwhelming majority of Chinese, the Han people, are virtually the second class citizens in their own country?

从中国历史来看,一个强势汉族统治的朝代,往往都是中国强大的时代, 汉族衰弱的时代,往往都是中国衰弱的时代。我们现在面临一个选择:是需要一个强大汉族的中华人民共和国,还是需要一个汉人二等公民的中华人民共和国

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